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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2008, 03:45:03 AM » |
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I have something to say, but i'm not saying it on here. If anyone wants to know please PM me.
I don't dislike Kate because I don't know her. I just don't like the way she is going about her life thats all, because in the long run it will cause problem's for her.
I said it last time the Daily Mail took aim at the family a few weeks ago this was damaging, and the more I think about it the more I think that William will not marry her. I think there are those who will make sure William is kept busy enough and long enough to keep the marriage to Kate from happening.
I agree SG they are hiding behind us to continue their attacks. I don't think she is a popular woman in the UK at the moment and either is her family or boyfriend.
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2008, 03:54:06 AM » |
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This is probably going to sound astronomically stupid, but I'll put it out there anyway:
If we are their "sources" for the negative articles about Kate, who are the sources for the positive ones? Is it another forum (I can think of at least one!) that insists that Clarence House told her to do X and Y?
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2008, 04:11:10 AM » |
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ahem Mr Reporter  If it is like that, well my uncles cousin works at Clarence House and he told me.... 
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2008, 04:23:43 AM » |
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Hmmm, well I posted a comment on their site. Not sure if they'll post it, but it sure felt good to vent.  And correct me if I am wrong, but most of the time when we get into hot debates about Kate are when we read the mostly incorrect articles that the Daily Mail is trying to pass off as profound journalism. 
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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2008, 04:30:12 AM » |
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The detail in some of the messages is astonishing, appearing to suggest that some of those posting know the subjects themselves.
In one, the writer says of Pippa: ‘She’s really been working on her cooking these days...she’s become better than ever.’
...that would be me: http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,35279.msg768457.html#msg768457Aaaaaand, I'm out. That's it for me. Goodbye everyone, I love you guys but I'm refuse to be used like this any longer. I will keep my account for a few days so anyone who wants to can PM me to say goodbye, ask about my reasons for leaving (although I should think they're pretty obvious), etc. I will of course keep up with what you guys are saying, but I won't write another word myself. God, it's going to be so hard to quit the forum cold turkey, but quit I must. Love to all xxxxxx
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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2008, 04:37:43 AM » |
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well they really need tgo back to school if they think this is what being a reporter is about?thay bein g said think kate is making them angry foe them to turn on her thisway? 
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2008, 04:48:59 AM » |
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I said it last time the Daily Mail took aim at the family a few weeks ago this was damaging, and the more I think about it the more I think that William will not marry her. I think there are those who will make sure William is kept busy enough and long enough to keep the marriage to Kate from happening.
I agree SG they are hiding behind us to continue their attacks. I don't think she is a popular woman in the UK at the moment and either is her family or boyfriend.
Yeah, I agree. They've used what is being said on the forum as fodder for this article but I don't think they always do that, neither do I think they would continuously post negative articles if they thought it wouldn't be well-received by the public. Anyway, the negativity in the recent Dm articles seem to match the negativity felt by the public towards her based on recent comments. And besides, not every negative article in recent times has been written by the DM.  And Kezza, that's a very valid point, at least, in my opinion.  William may not outrightly be forbidden to marry KM but he can become entangled in a web of royal, military and social duties that would be propogated by Court officials and advisers which would effectually prolong KM's wait and make an engagement seem unlikely, while giving William enough time to decide if she's the one for him.
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2008, 06:07:49 AM » |
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After reading the DM article, I am speechless. They take from us so freely without questioning any of what we have written, not that they should, as it is not meant for publication...and here we think what we discuss is between us, it is meant to be, they take what is private and make it part of the daily news, next to articles about Obama, Boris, and others. How bizarre and how invasive!
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2008, 06:24:00 AM » |
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Will I be the only one to disagree with the complete condemnation of the DM? They took the pulse of a forum, reported what they saw, properly gave credit for what they printed....The forum is not copyrighted. Ok, they did not have to qualify the opinions of the posters in that negative a light. Just because we don't nominate her for "the woman of substance" of 2008 for lifting 5 boxes, does not mean we are running a smear campaign.
Some people have claimed personal contact with Kate, a chance to observe her and William at a party, meeting James, or knowing something about the circles they move in.
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2008, 07:23:11 AM » |
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I think eventually all of this negativity is going to push things back the other way. The reason I say that is because the things being said are just too over the top, and drawing Kate's family into it is just wrong and unfair and people's sense of decency is going to be awakened. There is just too much that is wrong about the way this is being done. Kate Middleton hasn't done anything newly wrong. She hasn't started doing negative things that she never did before, she hasn't harmed anyone, she hasn't committed adultery. There is too much ill will directed towards Kate for it be simply because she chooses not to work. It's actually illogical. Kate doesn't get funds from the government, she isn't in council housing, she isn't supported by taxes, and she isn't taking anything away from anyone or asking anyone for anything. She isn't running for a political office, nor is her family. It's reached the point where she's being used as some sort of scape goat for the media to kick around, and that's sort of sick. Reading what's being written in the press and the comments posted on the newspaper websites, it's like people are literally trying to subject Kate to some sort of punishment because she chose not to get a job outside of her family, and that's a really sick thing to do. I hope that people's humanity begins to kick in soon, because this has gotten out of hand and it's frightening in the ugliness of it. I don't see how anyone with a shred of human decency can condone this type of behaviour from the media. IF what the Daily Mail says is true, someone from their newspaper actually had the termerity and audacity to KNOCK ON THE FRONT DOOR of the Middleton's home and hand them those photos of James, and ask them about them?!!!  And IF the Daily Mail is telling the truth, the Middleton's response was for Pippa to say "yes" when they asked if it was James, and then Mrs. Middleton asked where the photos came from, and then other than saying "no" when they asked if they had a comment, the Middletons said nothing..? Nothing? According to the DM they didn't complain, they didn't fight, they didn't scream or yell or cry, they just said nothing. That shows they are determined not to add to this situation by giving any sort of statement or satisfaction to the press. This family and these people don't deserve to be persecuted in this horrible way. Someone should stand up for them and simply say "Enough". It's not funny anymore, the media's persecution is getting sick and weird.  I genuinely feel sorry for Kate and her family; the simple fact of Kate choosing to not be employed should not evoke this type of mob mentality response. As humans, we are better than this. We should be above this type of behaviour and so should the media.
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2008, 07:49:49 AM » |
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Brilliant post, MapleLeaf! The mudslinging has gone so ugly I can't bring myself to laugh any longer. If the DM indeed paid the Middletons a visit, I got to admire how Pippa and Carole handled the situation. This is the family they mock and ridicule publicly. Nasty things have been said about them -- social-climbing, party animals, heir-hunting, gum-chewing nonsense. On top of that, they have people watching their flats, knocking on their doors and following them on holidays. And what have they done so far? Nothing. Nothing indecent or disrespectful. And still the media continue to attack. So tell me now... who, in heaven's name, has no class?
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2008, 07:57:52 AM » |
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MapleLeaf and putski i couldn't agree with you More  finally some one whose not so happy with the way the people and the press are treating the Middleton's
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2008, 08:21:09 AM » |
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It was only a matter of time till those pics would end up in the paper. They were all over the internet for weeks now and we all know the DM uses internet sites as source of information. I fnd it appalling that they would drag James into this though. What has he to do with anything? I see no reason for the press to be all over him. Why do they not print the strip party pics of Kate instead? They are at least her own responsibility. This is honestly getting ridiculous - like a witch hunt. Sad really, but I'm honestly curious what infuriated the DM like that. This almost seems personal. I agree that legal action should be taken but I do not know the law concerning facebook pics. Are they "public property" because they are published on a public website or do they still belong to the poster so that he/she could demand them being taken down? But then the Middletons didn't do anything about the last series of pics either. Maybe they have no legal ground.
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2008, 08:42:22 AM » |
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The press has used many,many Facebook photos of Chelsy in the press, with stories about her, so somehow there must be a legal loophole that allows use of the photos. But it was interesting that the last story where they used Fcebook photos of her at an event they disappeared the next day.
I feel kinda bad for James though, he's seems like a nice guy, just having fun. Why put him in the middle of Kate's pr.
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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2008, 09:00:32 AM » |
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The story about Chelsy disappeared, but the story about James is still there. However, I really believe this story is going to have some sort of repercussion, or at least it's going to end up getting pulled.
I truly feel that the DM has gone too far in their pursuit of finding new negative things to say about Kate Middleton. There's only so many times to say "she's not employed outside of her family's business" or "the Queen thinks she needs to be employed outside of her family's business" or "the Queen thinks Kate needs to do charity work". They've said all that over and over again, and it's getting old.
It's as if every morning the journos wake up and say "Kate Middleton isn't employed outside of her family business today. Let's say that in an article again". So how many times can they say the same thing over and over? Kate isn't continuously going to clubs, the Raffles pics of Wills and Kate were taken over 2 weeks ago.
She isn't seen out shopping, she isn't seen out at salons, they really have nothing new to say about Kate. Kate isn't a home-wrecker, she hasn't stolen someone else's man, she isn't living on the dole, what else can they do but pursue Kate's family and try to find ways to persecute them?
I really think this will backfire in the long run, I actually believe the Daily Mail has crossed a line with this article about James Middleton. Even the article about Chelsy was understandable, because she's dating Harry. The article about Chelsy was wrong and I'm glad it was pulled, but at least I could understand why they wrote it in the first place.
But James Middleton is in the exact same position as Chelsy's brother Shaun Davy. James isn't dating a royal, and there are no royals in any of the photos of him that are in the article. There is no reason for this article to exist. They've really crossed a line.
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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2008, 09:51:49 AM » |
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The Middletons will not do anything because it will only further highlight Jim's antics in the press. And besides, Jim surely is pleased with himself he's finally gotten notice in the press..... right? 
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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2008, 10:12:05 AM » |
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Actually, I imagine he's feeling pretty ill and upset about this; but you're right Lila,  he definitely got that 15 minutes of fame he seemed to be craving! I think it's definitely a sad case of be careful what you wish for, in his situation. Jim or whatever Middleton ( from what I read on facebook, he's called Jamie) is shown in a lot of photos doing the type of silly stuff those public school guys seem to do. For whatever reason, posh public school educated guys in the U.K. seem to think dressing up in dresses is hilariously funny, and that it's a great joke. I notice the DM didn't print these photos of Jamie, even though they were posted by the same person that posted the other pics. I wonder why the DM didn't include these in their article?! http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/zdenkask2004/james%20and%20others/n61013988_35676580_712.jpghttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/zdenkask2004/james%20and%20others/n61013988_35676571_7992.jpghttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/zdenkask2004/james%20and%20others/n61013988_35676601_7634.jpghttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/zdenkask2004/james%20and%20others/n61013988_35676607_9709.jpg
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« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2008, 10:15:37 AM » |
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Brilliant post, MapleLeaf! The mudslinging has gone so ugly I can't bring myself to laugh any longer. If the DM indeed paid the Middletons a visit, I got to admire how Pippa and Carole handled the situation. This is the family they mock and ridicule publicly. Nasty things have been said about them -- social-climbing, party animals, heir-hunting, gum-chewing nonsense. On top of that, they have people watching their flats, knocking on their doors and following them on holidays. And what have they done so far? Nothing. Nothing indecent or disrespectful. And still the media continue to attack. So tell me now... who, in heaven's name, has no class?
I totally agree. This has gone to far and now they are using our comments from this board to criticize them. ...that would be me: http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,35279.msg768457.html#msg768457Aaaaaand, I'm out. That's it for me. Goodbye everyone, I love you guys but I'm refuse to be used like this any longer. I will keep my account for a few days so anyone who wants to can PM me to say goodbye, ask about my reasons for leaving (although I should think they're pretty obvious), etc. I will of course keep up with what you guys are saying, but I won't write another word myself. God, it's going to be so hard to quit the forum cold turkey, but quit I must. Love to all xxxxxxSame here HMW. I'm going as well but will come back to read all the comments. Do you close an account or just leave it and eventually all details are deleted? I will read all your comments and I'm going to miss you all but I don't feel comfortable talking about KM now if I know that they could be used in this horrible way.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2008, 10:29:21 AM » |
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I am more interested in William's reaction to this latest scenario.
Will William now MOVE CLOSER to Kate and become even more protective and see through the bad times together or will he WALK AWAY from all the madness and try and move back to singledom again and thereby keep a lower profile.
William is very strong minded and stubborn as he himself said ... watch out public this fish might just jump further into Kate's arms and fight the world together as a STRONGER COUPLE in the face of adversity. William and Harry don't like being pushed into a corner and they may just put two fingers up at the world and marry their GIRLS .. this personal attack may have backfired in terms of those in the press who want to split them up again, I think they will still be together and stronger than ever by Christmas.
On the job front .... I HATE WORK been doing the same old rubbish job for years with no pension in sight (due to not staying long enough in school) life is TOO SHORT who would want to work if they did not have to, yes some would BUT NOT ME WORK TAKES YOUR SOLE AWAY and it's all about paying the bills anyway when the paycheck comes with £50 left over.
William and Kate are living the DREAM life .. I cannot help but say it good for them LIFE'S TOO SHORT.
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« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2008, 11:29:31 AM » |
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What gets me is the utter hypocrisy of the DM who recently has also been leading a smear campaign against Kate. I think they should look at what they've been writing recently instead of framing this forum. I thought the pictures of James were removed by mods from this forum but for some reason they're back again and now the DM have gotten hold of it. But I don't think it was fair of the DM to actually print the picture for the world to see, and then frame the forum for it, as far as I'm concerned they are worse then the forum cos they actually printed it in a public newspaper that is going to be seen be more people then those who visit this site. Sorry DM but you are not that much better in your behaviour towards Kate then people on this forum or you wouldn't have printed the picture whereas we had the decency to remove it. I'm in agreement with Mapleleaf in that people do have the tendency to be ott on here and print things that aren't appropriate. So please be careful guys when you're commenting or posting pictures and don't print things which the DM can use in their smear campaign against Kate.
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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2008, 12:00:56 PM » |
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I'm too scared to speak whats on my mind, and my opinion now. Not sure the press did confront the Middleton's though at their door? I think taking aim at her family is a bit low, but that doesn't mean I have changed my opinion on Kate. I do believe the Daily Mail has used us as a cover for there own attacks, and I have seen some of the comments being made in the actual paper by people, and it doesn't paint a possitive picture for Kate. I feel this has been brewing for sometime, maybe even from day one of her relationship with William. I have always thought the press would crucify her by just the way they use to write about her in the beginning. They built her up as something she hasn't been able to deliver, and I suspect they (the press) knew she wouldn't.
I'm still at the opinion Kate will not end up married to William anytime soon, too many problems here. We maybe living in modern times but I still think some things don't change and with that part i'm leaving it at that.
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« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2008, 12:21:12 PM » |
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What annoys me is that it the DM make people on this forum look like bad people and yet the DM aren't that much better. In fact I think they're worse. Don't worry about it Kezza just don't give the DM an excuse to write about us and don't post things that they could use. Let them make themselves look bad and not us. I think the only good thing that could come out of this article is that people are more cautious about what they print as we are being watched as this article has shown.
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