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« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2008, 12:31:00 PM » |
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Why should the people here be bad people just because the majority disapproves of Kate? They say basically the same things as the commens left on the articles?? Why do they not print the strip party pics of Kate instead? They are at least her own responsibility.
What? What? What? Does anybody have those pics???  I'm making a movie of Kate right now and could use some more funny pics. Why watch a girl with the body of a 12 year old boy getting naked?  Although I pretty much enjoy those negative articles about Waity I think it's a little unfair towards James. Oh I agree Kezza, there is no way Wills and Kate get married soon 
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« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2008, 12:32:55 PM » |
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I'm not happy someone has deleted my photobucket account becuase of this in fact i'm bloody annoyed coz I had some rare comedy stuff on there from The Goodies, Monty Python and I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again radio show from the 60's.
Just had a look becuase my sig pics have gone and it also contained certain pics of the Middleton's
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« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2008, 12:57:23 PM » |
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Well I did not post that much here I know but .... I have decided to take a break from all of this and will not be visiting the site again after today. I may come back next year 2009 if there is anything new to say.
I am looking forward to 2012 at least I can comment on the Queen's Diamond Jubilee which will be a positive day for the monarchy of all this depressing day in and day out predictions.
Let William do what he wants whatever that is ... if they get engaged next year or thereafter I will offer my congratulations if they don't well as I said there is always the Queen's Diamond Jubilee to look forward to 6 February 2012.
I expect I shall have another look at this site again in the New Year of 2009 just to catch up on things although I don't expect much change apart from Prince Charles 60th birthday pictures 14 November 2008 to have a look back at. Of all the newspapers I really only ever bought the Express and Daily Mail ... but I think like it or not of all the newspapers that ever had all the top TRUE ROYAL STORIES in terms of accuracy and proven events weeks later have been the EVENING STANDARD AND THE SUN. I do think their reporters have INSIDE information sources.
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« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2008, 01:30:14 PM » |
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I'm not happy someone has deleted my photobucket account becuase of this in fact i'm bloody annoyed coz I had some rare comedy stuff on there from The Goodies, Monty Python and I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again radio show from the 60's.
Just had a look becuase my sig pics have gone and it also contained certain pics of the Middleton's
I jumped the gun here sorry some pics are gone from my photobucket account.
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« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2008, 01:39:17 PM » |
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The Middletons will not do anything because it will only further highlight Jim's antics in the press. And besides, Jim surely is pleased with himself he's finally gotten notice in the press..... right? I suppose it appears for some, that is the sort of substantial purpose the monarchy is meant for or serving.. We maybe living in modern times but I still think some things don't change and with that part i'm leaving it at that. Apparently not. Freebies, clubs, endless holidays, playing tricks with the press and framing one' s public image are the new values now associated with a long-time respected Institution.
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« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2008, 01:40:19 PM » |
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What annoys me is that it the DM make people on this forum look like bad people and yet the DM aren't that much better. In fact I think they're worse. Don't worry about it Kezza just don't give the DM an excuse to write about us and don't post things that they could use. Let them make themselves look bad and not us. I think the only good thing that could come out of this article is that people are more cautious about what they print as we are being watched as this article has shown.
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« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2008, 01:47:34 PM » |
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I think it's worse for the Daily Mail. They have obvious no more scource to get information from, so they use forums insteed. That is very worse for a journalist. Journalist get good jobs from information that's not known. By quoting opinions that are already for everyone to read is digging their own grave.
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« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2008, 01:56:21 PM » |
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I think it's pitiful and so embarrassing. Some journalist from the Daily Mail should looking for a new job elsewhere, journalism isn't clearly the right occupation for them 
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« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2008, 02:06:37 PM » |
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The Daily Mail have really made themselves a laughing stoke this weekend. Nathan (author of James article) has accused us of having a smear campaign against Kate by having that picture on the forum and yet he's printed it. Someone I know said that the DM were worse then us because they printed it in a national newspaper for all to see. In the same paper, in the magazine, there is this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/you/article-1049383/Are-Waity-Katy.htmlOriginal title in the magazine was 'Are you a Waity Katy: Is it worth waiting for Prince Charming?' and the article is attacking Kate for her lack of work and her willingness to hang around and hope William proposes to her. Then there is good old Katie Nicholls: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1050921/Queen-tells-Charles-Get-William-charity-job.htmlAlso making the comment about Kate's lack of job and this time bringing William into it. Both these articles aren't saying much different to what Countessa, Varya and Serene were all reported to be saying. So before Nathan Kay starts accusing this forum of having a smear campaign against Kate. Prehaps he should look at what his work partners are writing in the same newspaper. As well as this forum, the Daily Mail, the Sun, the Mirror, the Star and many other media people have all written negative articles about Kate, especially this recently. So I suppose you could say they too have a so-called smear campaign against Kate, especially the Daily Mail. Noone else in the media has printed these photos of James, only the Daily Mail. If the Sun now prints the photos it's because the Daily Mail has done so. I would advise the Sun not to as it'll only make them as guilty as the Daily Mail. I think framing this forum as having a smear campaign against Kate is totally unjust as all we comment on is what the media has already written about and what people reading the newspapers have also commented on. So it's not just us, it is the media and the public who also disapprove of Kate and her lifestyle. And in this world of free speech when people see something that they don't agree with they are going to say so and that also includes the media. Noone has a smear campaign against Kate, I for one don't, and I think, again, that is totally unjust. People just don't agree with the way she lives her life. I, for one, just see a pretty, smart young girl who seems to be wasting her life and it's sad. I think she can be so much better to what she shows herself to be. I'm hoping that if she does marry William she will show me who she really is and prove to me that the view I have of her right now is wrong. Because over the last year she's given me a bad impression. I don't want to constantly criticise the girl but I hate seeing her wasting her life and putting so much hope into one thing which still looks uncertain. Where other posters are concerned, yes some people do go over the top with their comments but the media are not that much better with their attitude towards Kate. Especially recently. So before the DM start framing people of smear campaigns against others prehaps they should look at themselves and what they're writing. Which if you look at it closely isn't that much different to what is being written in this forum.
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« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2008, 02:18:31 PM » |
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I think the piece is good, and the pictures of James are definitely him! There's no doubt about it. They have never been seen before so why not print them? If the writer (Nathan Katie Richard Kay - are they the same person?) claimed that he found the pics and knew the source then bad journalism but he didn't he quoted the website, quoted the member posts and said where he got them from! I agree with what was previously written by another member that it was just reporting what has been written! Anyone else would do the same. He did it first!!! well done.
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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2008, 02:23:53 PM » |
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« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2008, 02:26:26 PM » |
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Like I had written before, I think that Will's camp is allowing a smear campaign against Kate....maybe so when Wills breaks up with her, the public won't be against him like before. Instead, more people will be relieved that he separated himself from someone who is considered free-loading, lazy, and superficial.
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« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2008, 02:40:44 PM » |
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Interesting post, Mystery. If William truly loves the girl and is planning to marry her then I'm surprised he allows such negative press as what Kate is getting at the minute. He certainly doesn't seem to be doing much to stop it. The forum is the least of his worries. The press are what he should be worried about because I reckon this is only the beginning of what the press can do. When the press get nasty they can get very nasty and boy will the Middletons know about it if they do. If William cares enough about Kate and is planning to marry her he needs to think about bringing the press to heel before they go too far. At the minute like Mystry pointed out William''s camp seems to be allowing this 'smear-campaign' by the media. He certainly doesn't seem to be doing much to stop them.
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« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2008, 02:42:37 PM » |
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I don' t see any "smearing campaign" lead by either the British media or royal forums.
When after 3 years spent into public spotlight, you have not a single accuracy between what it is reported or seen - public image - and true facts, well some questions/problematics are necessarily raised.
I do find it normal into current liberal democratic societies that these types of questions are been lead and debated about if people care enough for a matter.
As far as I don' t like the article written by a so called "journalist", I don' t for a second blame the DM. They do have too other journalists respecting the deontology of their job like Amanda Platell.
One as an adult do choices and take the responsibility of them. It appears incredibly laughable to dare to put the blame on :
- the RF for chickening out from a charity race after joining it lately and only after posing for Hello! - the RF for having no job for at nearly 27 years-old - the press if you do (unofficially) communicate with them... you do pose for them or even pose with a paparazzi at your Chelsea' s apartment doorsteps... if you do everything to stay into the spotlight during a public break-up by going to central London clubs or attending a sex-toy promotion party... if you do have some arrangements with your former employer for being able to go on holidays or clubbing showing your undies, etc, etc.
Blaming others for one' s own failures is not only a laughable stockpile but a miserable "smearing and/or PR" campaign too lead on the anniversary death of Lady Diana... appearing to suit the interests of some people other than the RF itself or even the British press..
I think that being concerned and sensible about the image diffuses of one' s country, family, Head of State matters enough to be debated.
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« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2008, 02:51:17 PM » |
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I'm glad it ran to be honest. I didn't know about the pictures or this forum beforehand! I think the story was great and some of you are critical because you have been insiders to this forum for a while. The article is spot on and will raise further dicussion on this forum and in the media. New people will join and be able to have an opinion. That's the beauty of free speach! Let it reign (but not Kate, please)
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« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2008, 03:40:40 PM » |
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To Daily Mail: How bizarre and how invasive! You don't have what write?! You are as poor that the you must copy from us? Let me have work and next time you will not to copy! But I don´t believe I´M IN PAPER AND DAILY MAIL ! WOW!New people will join and be able to have an opinion it´s true. Very astonishing advertisement!!! Keep it up!!!
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« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2008, 04:00:47 PM » |
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I'm glad it ran to be honest. I didn't know about the pictures or this forum beforehand! I think the story was great and some of you are critical because you have been insiders to this forum for a while. The article is spot on and will raise further discussion on this forum and in the media. New people will join and be able to have an opinion. That's the beauty of free speech! Let it reign (but not Kate, please)
 We have well formed opinions on this forum and they obviously come from the media. So I completely disagree when Mapleleaf suggests "all positive" things should be said about Kate and the ONLY reason we are critical of her is because she does not have a job. Who is that simpleminded? Everyone on this forum is intelligent, nothing about this whole Kate thing is that simplistic or one dimensional. Mapleleaf, I really think you need to reconsider your beliefs about why Kate draws so much criticism, go at it from another angle, try to look at the criticism from another perspective and you may see that it is not as arbitrary as you currently see it!
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The Chocolate Princess
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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2008, 04:50:56 PM » |
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 Her unemployment status is just the main reason and the most severe. If someone does something wrong who always screws up you tend get pissed. But if the person makes just one mistake you can forgive it easier. IMO If she would work she would take some wind out of our sails I really don't get it why she didn't act by now after all this criticism... and I don't mean PR stunts like carrying boxes. Even I would have got a job and I usually give a sh** what people think of me.  But she probably expects to get a ring at Christmas, so why work for 4 months? Maybe William promised her that? That could be a reason why she is so unconcerned? BTW if the DM gets those negative comments from our forum now (with us as sources), where did they get all those positive stunning ones? 
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« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2008, 05:03:33 PM » |
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« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2008, 05:09:33 PM » |
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But she probably expects to get a ring at Christmas, so why work for 4 months? Maybe William promised her that? That could be a reason why she is so unconcerned?
Do you really believe that the royal family would allow an engagement by her present negative reputation  ? BTW if the DM gets those negative comments from our forum now (with us as sources), where did they get all those positive stunning ones?  From the Kate Fanatic Forums of course 
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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2008, 05:31:49 PM » |
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The Chocolate Princess, Thanks! I really think you get what I said.  Estrella,  That is why I think this story is so compelling to all of use, it could go either way, she could get a ring at Christmas or she could be single at Christmas. That's why I stay close to the details, because I want to see what happens in the end. Anyasha, Good point! Where do the positive posts come from that the DM refers to? 
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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2008, 05:59:15 PM » |
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The Middletons will not do anything because it will only further highlight Jim's antics in the press. And besides, Jim surely is pleased with himself he's finally gotten notice in the press..... right?  I agree Lila. I agree. What I found even more interesting is that MaMidds and Pippa answered the door so easily and with no suprise that the DM reporter was there, so easily (imo) possibly it is something they have been doing all along.Pippa was calm , her mother was calm, not in the least suprised the reporter was at the door. They just did not like the content of the photos, then they clamed up and shut the door. I think something I predicted all along will come to light one day, if Pr. William and Kate ever breakup for good, I think we may find out we were right about someone making phonecalls from the kitchen to a DM reporter Does anyone really think this is the first time reporters from the DM have been there asking questions? I DON'T! It's just that this time the questions were not about possible engagement of glowing, stunning Kate. I think we'll hear more if they ever break up at just how much the press was fed courtesy of a kitchen "friend" of Kate's in Bershire. These two did not act suprised in the least that the reporter knocked on their door. Last night Pippa and Carole answered the door at the Middleton family home in Berkshire and accepted an invitation to look through the photos. Asked whether they were photos of James, Pippa said ‘yes’ and smiled briefly as she flicked through them.As she passed them to her mother she asked: ‘Where did these come from?’Invited to comment on whether they knew anything about the photos or had any comment to make on their contents, they replied ‘no’ and shut the door. DMail p.s. The DMail have printed Fcebook photos of Chelsy for years with negative stories, and all of those photos or articles weren't always removed and I didn't hear Kate supporters making a brouhaha over Chelsy's Fcebook, possibly damaging, silly,or party photos being used by the DM or the press.  P.S. I think many of those glowing comments in the past about Kate when the press was mostly Crowning her William's princess were coming from, the Middleton camp and "friends", whoever they may be. 
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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2008, 06:00:11 PM » |
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Will I be the only one to disagree with the complete condemnation of the DM? They took the pulse of a forum, reported what they saw, properly gave credit for what they printed....The forum is not copyrighted. Ok, they did not have to qualify the opinions of the posters in that negative a light. Just because we don't nominate her for "the woman of substance" of 2008 for lifting 5 boxes, does not mean we are running a smear campaign.
Some people have claimed personal contact with Kate, a chance to observe her and William at a party, meeting James, or knowing something about the circles they move in.
It is copyrighted. Generally speaking, people own copyright to the content of their own posts, and the forum owner owns copyright to the content as a whole. You don't have to have a copyright notice on the page for that to be the case. I wonder if the Mail got permission from the copyright holder of those photos to reprint them.
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