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« on: June 15, 2009, 03:24:39 AM »

Duncan Larcombe says Harry has dropped Caroline, and that he desperately wants Chelsy back.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2481603/Why-Prince-Harry-really-dropped-TV-girl-Caroline-Flack.html

Wink I always thought that Ms. Flack was a fling in the first place.  I don't know if Duncan is correct, but he's got a better track record than the other Royal correspondents, so I'm more inclined to believe him.  

I hope Harry and Chelsy are able to work it out, (if they both want to) but if Chelsy is really set on living her life in South Africa permanently at some point in the future, then it can't work out.  The reality is that Harry can't live in South Africa or anywhere other than the UK, full time.  He can own a holiday home abroad and take holidays/vacations abroad, but he can't live abroad.

Not only that, but if Chelsy were to marry Harry, she would have to give up her career.  Would she want to do that?  It's a hard situation, but I do hope they work it out.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 03:26:34 AM »

A real soap opera concocted by the press.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 09:47:23 AM »

Wow Caroline didn't last long, I hope Chelsy and Harry do get back together, they made a cute couple  wub2
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 11:08:10 AM »

This is Dean Piper's take on it.  

http://tinyurl.com/l9bkot

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I hear Prince Harry's fling with TV gal Caroline Flack is continuing apace. But I'm not so sure Harry's that into her. My mole reveals: "Harry wants to make Chelsy Davy jealous now she's seeing her new hunk Dan Philipson... he and Caroline are just fooling around for now."

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 11:09:49 AM »

If they really do truly miss each other then I hope they get back together. Who am I to stand in true loves way?! laugh And hey...Chelsy's paparazzi parade really paid off!

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Her tantrums and demands, the five years of falling out and making up, simply made him beg for more.

This isn't how a healthy relationship works, it should consist of mature compromises, not tantrums and demands. It says more about Chelsy's attitude than the relationship.

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"Part of Chelsy also wants Harry back. But for that to happen she's going to have to make a big mind shift, because it's common knowledge that her heart is with her family and Africa.

This is the biggest black mark. Harry deserves someone better than Chelsy who will unceremoniously dump him every 3 months because she's feeling homesick. She's done it in the past and she'll do it again in the future. If they get back together. I also think Chelsy is making a big mistake by staying in England; she's making it twice as hard to move on if she's struggling. Why put yourself through misery for a 2 year training contract? There isn't a guaranteed job at A & O after the contract either. If she's going to stay for another 2 years she may as well have stayed with Harry in the first place.

When I split from my first love after 3 years together it took me a whole year to fully move on. I think Harry & Chelsy are just going through the motions, it's only been 6 months after all. In my opinion both Harry and Chelsy deserve better than each other.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 02:04:54 PM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1193138/Prince-Harry-ends-relationship-TV-presenter--hes-pining-Chelsy.html
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 02:24:36 PM »

Chelsy it comes with the territory.

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 03:24:23 PM »

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Her tantrums and demands, the five years of falling out and making up, simply made him beg for more.

This isn't how a healthy relationship works, it should consist of mature compromises, not tantrums and demands. It says more about Chelsy's attitude than the relationship.
 
When I split from my first love after 3 years together it took me a whole year to fully move on. I think Harry & Chelsy are just going through the motions, it's only been 6 months after all. In my opinion both Harry and Chelsy deserve better than each other.

Yep, been there, done that, bought the T-shirt, read the book and seen the film.  I totally agree with you Britt.  If this article is true, and I accept D Larcombe is good at his job, then I do not view this as a mature relationship.  They are both acting like children.

In a good relationship, people are able to mature together.  Can't help but think they are both holding each other back.  If this article is true that is.

I'm getting the impression, that they are unable to live together and are having problems coming to terms living without each other.  Relationships like that does eventually burn itself out.  It takes a while to get over a volatile relationship.

Time is the great healer, although I do recall I had difficulty in taking that advice on at the time, but looking back I do feel it's true.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 05:35:45 PM »

Hale, great points and it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel when your going through it. I still believe that as much as Harry might want to get back w/Chelsy the Mugabe issue will always be an issue and I don't see them getting married because of it and other reasons. Even though the Sun has an ad for a diamond on the piece. The Queen revoked Mugabe Knighthood for a reason and Chelsy's family ties w/him can't help for a reconciliation. IMO.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 05:58:05 PM »

I believe that is a good excuse to employ and WHY Bev Davy told the papers they had to distance themselves from someone as racially biased as Harry!! I had to howl when I read that !! Talk about obtuse !!
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2009, 06:20:37 PM »

I think if Harry and Chelsy really wanted to marry I think the royals would follow the precedent of Maxima who in effect disowned her father to marry her prince. I think it was not impossible, the breakup involved something with the couple nothing more.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2009, 06:34:36 PM »

I'm getting the impression, that they are unable to live together and are having problems coming to terms living without each other.  Relationships like that does eventually burn itself out.  It takes a while to get over a volatile relationship.

Hale, I 100% think this is the case.  They had a very volatile, and most likely unhealthy, relationship, and it's only natural to miss it once it's gone...  They simply couldn't sustain that level, but they are having a very tough time coming to terms with it being gone...

It would help a lot more if they simply didn't see each other, period.

I think Harry doesn't miss Chelsy --just the idea of her, and a fling with Caroline helped him see, not that he loves Chelsy still, but that he needs what he thought he had with her.

I just hope he moves on to an ultra classy lady, not these WAGs and TV presenters.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2009, 06:42:58 PM »

Did anyone else notice how the Caroline News Of The World article has been taken down? I think this Chelsy story could be the Clarence House PR machine in full spin. Note how both articles in The Sun and Daily Mail emphasize how Harry has been working his arse off in flying training. I think Clarence House are desperately trying to shrug off any bad damage done to Harry's reputation through any associations with Caroline, thanks to the damning NOTW article on Sunday. Apparently Caroline has contacted her lawyers too. These 2 new articles today are beginning to smell like PR.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2009, 06:47:51 PM »

Yes, yes just checked at the minute, Yikes. PCC Huh
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2009, 06:56:31 PM »

Very astute!  Perhaps CH made Harry pull the plug and issued all this "he still loves Chelsy" stuff to save him, to show his good judgment?  Who knows... He's better off without either, IMHO.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2009, 11:15:41 PM »

Not to put too fine a point on it but I think we shall continue seeing Haz and Caro together.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 12:42:42 AM »

this is all getting very exciting, isn't it? laugh

Yes, yes just checked at the minute, Yikes. PCC Huh
i didn't see her listed at the PCC's website....or anything from Harry about this issue either.

they pulled the article so someone (Caroline? the owner of the pix?) must have complained.  that's happened over private pix being published before.  or it could have been over the content itself although i hardly see the NOTW agreeing to pull an article unless they had to admit that they'd made up their "facts".
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^where did you hear that?

either way i dont think CH or StJP got involved.  it was more to do with Caroline then Harry and it was hardly "damaging" stuff to him.  at least to my eyes.

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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 01:23:53 AM »

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"She is just not the Royal Family's type.

"She comes from a very relaxed family with different values and a completely different lifestyle.

"This is what Harry loves about her. The irony is that it's also what tore them apart.

"Outsiders also don't realise just how hard Chelsy has been working and how her studies, especially her final exams, have stressed her out.

"She's been so busy she hasn't had time to keep in touch with friends and that makes her sad."

Thats is the truth..and i think thats why so many people wants this relationship to work out..i dont know it sounds like a true love u know...even being diferent from diferent places and lives they just love each other...its so true and romantic!!!!

I dont know if theyre getting back toguether!!!!
But i would love to see it!!!!

I do think they will be facing the same problems over and over again...but if they truly love themselves i think they can work this out!!!!
And perhaps i do believe shes taking her carrer seriously i do believe also that shes staying in the uk only because deep down inside she still have hopes they will get back as a couple...
But still alll we can get from this "soap opera"  are especulations..
lets wait and see...heheheh
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2009, 02:48:47 AM »

I remember the same being said about Fergie and look how that ended. I can't imagine what it would be like to not have your father be able to walk one down the isle or to disown him, nor can I imagine Chelsy doing this either as she is all about family and Africa as the article states. It has been written many times on this blog Chelsy dislike of England, she would have to give up her African citizen ship which I don't see her doing that either. How's the saying go "everything can be bought for the right price" so perhaps she would do all of the above. When a person knows what their parents/father does for a living and then disowns him to marry a prince it seems very disingenuous IMO. Did it ever bother the person before when daddy paid for their education, well-being, clothes, food, shelter? Chelsy will be held accountable for the sins of her father right or wrong, much like Hitlers family who had to change their names and go into hiding. One can disown their family, but blood stains are not so easy to remove. The Queen is a smart lady.
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2009, 02:50:39 AM »

One of the parties are trying to save face Huh
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2009, 06:33:15 AM »

I am going to play devils advocate here.  Number one this seems like a poor PR stunt. I doubt he is pining for Chelsy the way he is playing the field.
But, to me there is a bit of sexism going on here.  You mean to tell me this girl is getting dumped because she has been playing the field just like Harry is.  Come on, I thought these days are over! Its perfectly alright for Harry to go out and play the field; but god forbid, if he should be with a woman who does the same thing.  They, the press and CH, are making this girl in to be a ***. What the hell do they think Harry is doing ?  We call guys like Harry a male ***. Harry has already been labled as a racist; are we going to add sexist to that, as well?  This is a very bad article.  And shame on Harryfor letting his PR people get away with this.  This PR stunt just reeks of sexism.  Unbelievable that they would put something out like this.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2009, 11:09:27 AM »

^ We can't know for sure that CH are involved with the unpleasant press coverage of Caroline. We can hazard a guess, but there's nothing to back it up.  The press on the other hand have had no qualms in bashing the poor girls reputation black and blue and that's more than obvious for all to see.

dreemeblue, I think you make a very valid point about the hypocrisy when it comes to male/female reputations when dating or "playing the field"
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2009, 02:13:52 PM »

I think Caroline will cry all the way to the bank. Look at all the publicity she's getting which I think is what she wanted in the first place. I'm not having a pity party for Caroline.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2009, 02:19:40 PM »

Perhaps one day we will get to know who was pining for who. At the moment, I really do not think Harry is pining for Chelsy.

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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2009, 06:19:16 PM »

   Well spotted  Brittinaylala.  That News of the World article made some not very nice claims about Flack.  If you recall,  they said she had slept with at least 11 men.  That she was also someone who chased well known celebrities.

The News of the World has lost some very, very high profile legal cases of late.  Ones which relate to invasion of privacy.  In one of those case, Max Mosely who sue the NOTW successfully is not letting it rest, he is taking further legal action to the European Court of Human Rights.

Something is not right with the follow up articles in The Sun and DM.  It is not only a PR thing for Harry, but I think, also a PR thing for Chelsy.

I don't believe they are getting back together again.  But I do believe they (Courtiers) are still endeavouring to keep Chelsy sweet.  They are desperate to avoid a kiss and tell story.
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