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« Reply #100 on: January 17, 2010, 03:14:55 AM » |
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Thanks for this link! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSjb_4tUrxMKate rubbing William's back. Would love to see more moments like this. They looks so relaxed together, and the physical contact illustrated what a comforting role they play for each other. A few more moments like this and I think much negative speak around there relationship would subside. This two seconds of footage is the most real I have seen them look EVER!!
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« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2010, 04:41:38 AM » |
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To all of you may or may not understand this "its not important of what's being said, its whats not being said that's important"!! No, I haven't talked to his advisors, have you Ursula? In the legal field, in some democracies, everything is subject to interpretation, its not if you're guilty; its if it can be proven--so far the jury is still out on W&WK!!!  For everything that has been said about them being the second coming of Romeo & Juliette, it can be said something is just not right w/these two. His father went on national TV and said William was one of the laziest people he knew (little did we know about Camilla). Which is why he hoped that w/military training and career, both of the POW's lads would take to public life but that did not happen. Hence, William's reluctance for royal duties. So, how hard William works @ his personal relationships would be of great importance to the royal household as well for GB!! Like I said in my earlier posts, Kate is for public consumption, being used as a beard--if he truly loved her there would be no guessing at all. 
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« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2010, 05:55:46 AM » |
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No offense, lisalisa88, but if you really believe that, you must have a pretty poor opinion of William's judgment and the judgment of every single person advising him -- including his father and his grandparents. Also, His father went on national TV and said William was one of the laziest people he knew (little did we know about Camilla). When did this happen? Do you have links to video or news stories about it? I don't recall this at all.
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"Where did you get that hat?" Prince Philip to Queen Elizabeth II after her coronation in 1953
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« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2010, 06:34:38 AM » |
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That doesn't look like a complete text of his remarks to me, mousie_kins, just selected quotations from his remarks in a news release for the website. In some sections, only partial quotations are excerpted, not even full sentences. I think we'd need the full text of the speech before we can make any pronouncements about the press adding in the "girlfriends" remark as some sort of Kate conspiracy theory.
Besides, if any of the papers misquoted a royal, I'm sure they'd be swiftly corrected by the Palace.
Not implying any conspiracy! I just thought it was weird that it wasn't mentioned as they would have been all part of the same sentence. It was simply an observation for everyone to make their own mind about.  I also asked if their was a full OFFICIAL text or video of the speech for us to be able to fully assess what Charles said. 
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« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2010, 07:26:20 AM » |
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His father appeared on a show in the US a few yrs. ago, saying that William didn't get up until 9:30 a.m., the public making noise arose him because his bedroom faced the front of the house or the gardens, can't remember which one (this was before Sandhurst). And as far as judgement goes, you mean the same people who advised his father re: his marriage to Diana (his parents), yeah, they had poor judgement!! Prince Philip was shocked that his son would leave Diana for Camilla, it came out during the inquest. Charles' idea of relationships would leave one w/much to think about--negative! The Queen consented for Charles to marry Camilla and you can see how that's been a big hit, right? Yeah, great judgement. Now, they want William to step up w/royal duties because the C&C show is a bust! Yeah, great judgement. Over time, the Queen & PP have learned to treat their new daughter-in-laws w/support and understanding, esp. Sophie, COW. When she was sick after giving birth to her daughter, Louise, the Queen made sure she was @ Sophie's bedside for moral support which was reported to be unprecedented! The Queen has shown more support for Sophie than any of her DILs, including William's mother, Diana. And that's a good thing. Now, as for Camilla, that's a different story. To keep peace in the family, she made Camilla #4 in private matters--yeah, great judgement. And as for William, waiting for the 11th hr. to inform the woman you supposedly loved that, oh, by the way, I'm enlisting in the military for another 5 yrs. as a surprise, yeah, great judgement. edited for content
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« Reply #105 on: January 17, 2010, 01:37:31 PM » |
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« Reply #106 on: January 17, 2010, 01:42:11 PM » |
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I don't believe William is extremely lazy either. Maybe a little... but not overly so. And who doesn't like to sleep in when they can? I know I sure do when I can get away with it
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« Reply #107 on: January 17, 2010, 02:45:40 PM » |
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(  to both of you) show Kate briefly rubbing William's back reassuringly when he turned around and saw the ?page=1 That show them smiling at each other. Those brief moments show that in most ways they're just like any other couple. It's just plain silly to try to pretend that William didn't want Kate there or that he didn't expect her to be there. Or they just acted to be very good friends. Those pictures and the little video about rubbing William's back don't say anything about their boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. I believe, it depends on the way you look at it. Rubbing a back of someone it doesn't mean, that they have a sexual relationship. Did anyone ever rub a back of a brother or father or just a friend? I do it quiet a lot. Especially to give them support. Let me assume, that Kate really didn't get an invitation. What should William do? It is his big day. Why should he ruin his own day? Especially if we assume, that Kate and William are still good friends. Why shouldn't he act like, everything is okay? Why souldn't he be nice to her? I do know, we saw picture of them, on which William showed how mad he can get. But was this event (HIS event) really a moment, where he should be mad? Maybe he was so nervous (that is what I see, when Kate was rubbing William's back), that he was grateful, that Kate was there as a very good friend. His turning around doesn't mean necessarily, that he was looking to the photographer. Maybe he was just looking around. That would be another argument for beeing nervous. So what I tried to say: You see on the picture and video what ever YOU want to see. But we should never forget, we will always just see a second of their attitude. I believe, Kate won't be stupid, so she won't show us if there is trouble in paradise. Both will keep their head up and pretend everythng is fine. Who wouldn't do this? Especially with all the watchers around them. I wish, William will marry a woman, who he really loves. And she will love him, because of not who he is, but because of his personality. Maybe it will be Kate. Maybe not. Who knows`? I don't!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #108 on: January 17, 2010, 02:51:23 PM » |
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She wouldn't get passed the gates. With all due respect, not only the 'mystery' stories but love the wishfull 6 year thinking...they are pretending all is fine.
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« Reply #109 on: January 17, 2010, 02:52:19 PM » |
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I thought Kate rubbed his back in a motherly way. The only picture/video I've seen of them acting undoubtedly like a couple was the car park kiss.
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« Reply #110 on: January 17, 2010, 02:56:26 PM » |
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She enjoyed the 15 minute view from up up and away of Terence Hill Shropshire.
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« Reply #111 on: January 17, 2010, 03:21:51 PM » |
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« Reply #112 on: January 17, 2010, 03:39:12 PM » |
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I think she crash landed in parachute and The Sun twisted the story about William giving her a 'surprise'. Wasn't invited but decided to trek the hazardous snowy highway and finally made it to the gates after a 3 hour ride, took a heli and landed beside the Golden Osprey. Phew! (A bit of humour guys).  He should really use his sixth sense (perhaps a belated birthday gift). Meao! 
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« Reply #113 on: January 17, 2010, 03:51:20 PM » |
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« Reply #114 on: January 17, 2010, 04:05:32 PM » |
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Let's be honest, Kate would not be there if they were not together. William does not have to have her or anyone there as he does many functions by himself. I watched the video and I thought William caught on they were be filmed & hence him looking back towards the camera. Kate was also seen looking directly into the camera at the beginning of the video. I think she looked like her rubbing his back was going to be more intimate until William realised the camera was on and she went to a more reserved rub/pat on the back. IMO. They seemed lovey in the pics, William leaning into her, she whispering into his ear. One pic looked like it could have been a kiss on the cheek, but Kate hair was hiding the view. Maybe just a close whisper between the two?
Point is, she would not be there if she was not his gf. Why William has not announced or ask her to marry him is beyond me. Princess Madeline is same age and already engaged. They have been together long enough for them to both know if they should have a life together and Kate is well aware of what being a royal entails. The time has come or she should not be going to these kind of events. Now William is in NZ & no doubt pics of him w/other woman are going to come out/be written about even if it is harmless. Then he will be made to look like a cad after Kate was at his wing ceremony & this whole trip of goodwill will be tarnished by rumors.
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« Reply #115 on: January 17, 2010, 05:51:05 PM » |
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I think Prince Charles knows his sons better than any of us so if he says William was the laziest person he knew (maybe his wife Camilla has the title now) then who are you to say otherwise? Oh yeah, let's see, the foremost authorities on Prince William & WK, right? He didn't want to get up, all W&H wanted to do was party, hence, plans were drawn up to enlist the princes in the military! Had to do something w/them, couldn't just let them lay around and do nothing, not even royal duties at the time. Yes, for those who want to sleep in late at a young age, the rule in my mother's house was "never let 12 noon catch you in bed". You got up, did your chores, went to school or work, then you could catch up on your sleep! Charles' point was that you can't run the streets all night, then sleep in until you felt like getting up! There's a schedule that had to be kept so get your lazy behind up and get moving!! Which apparently his wife, Camilla hasn't learned yet.  Its been reported his friends have said William is lazy when it comes to his personal life--Kate is easy, no drama, so why look any further. But it begs to why sit by and watch the reputation of the woman you supposedly love get trash and not say anything! She's good enough to be seen at public functions w/him so what's the problem? Oh yeah, right, the press! 
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« Reply #116 on: January 17, 2010, 06:16:53 PM » |
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So apparently his lazy days are over, the military has done a good job with W&H. Hip hip hurray! And W&K have a steady relationship. Another hip hip hurray!
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« Reply #117 on: January 17, 2010, 08:41:10 PM » |
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Maybe he's 'lazy' in his personal life in that he knows his title and way of life guarentee a certain amount of attention from the ladies. Even if he was imho 'unattractive', say like a cetain woman's son, he would still pull quite a few ladies without much effort because of his title and wealth. It is what it is.
As for Kate being 'easy and no drama', methinks that she has seen that if you pressure him into doing something, he's more inclined to be a tad bit stubborn and just as likely to walk away. A bit like walking on eggshells or glass, she treads very softly. She's learned from the history book of the Windsor men methinks, and learnt that tantrum throwing and demands get you zero but ego stroking, being relaxed and comfortable and never making demands get's you a whole lot further. Imho how sad is that.
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« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2010, 01:14:48 AM » |
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oh the drama!
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« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2010, 11:44:23 PM » |
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Let's be honest, Kate would not be there if they were not together. William does not have to have her or anyone there as he does many functions by himself. I watched the video and I thought William caught on they were be filmed & hence him looking back towards the camera. Kate was also seen looking directly into the camera at the beginning of the video. I think she looked like her rubbing his back was going to be more intimate until William realised the camera was on and she went to a more reserved rub/pat on the back. IMO. They seemed lovey in the pics, William leaning into her, she whispering into his ear. One pic looked like it could have been a kiss on the cheek, but Kate hair was hiding the view. Maybe just a close whisper between the two?
I can't get why is it being made a big deal? He brought her to ceremony.So what?He has done that many times before .If ithad been a sign to an imminent engagment,then they should have married long time ago. People who claimed him ignoring Kate and making her to run to keep up with him at a previous ceremony doesn't sprove anything negative about their relationship,now claim w&k satting together or laughing prove how madly they are in love with. If those moves can be attributed to status and enormity of their relationship why did u take no notice of him humiliating her by the way I described ? They should be Romeo and Juliette because They sat together,laugh,she touched his back..WOW...Such a big love..... Why wouldn't they do any of this?They're a couple.And why and how could they attributed to their great love like he has done such a great thing to prove his love. Did he hold her hand or anything else to display her status as anything other than long time gf  ??NO. After 6 years he should be proposing instead of laughing or leaning to her......It takes more to value sbd... When it comes to touching his back,nice gesture but he doesn't seem to be enthusiastic enough to be made fuss about.
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« Reply #120 on: January 28, 2010, 11:59:35 PM » |
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So apparently his lazy days are over, the military has done a good job with W&H. Hip hip hurray! And W&K have a steady relationship. Another hip hip hurray!
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« Reply #121 on: January 29, 2010, 02:12:20 AM » |
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People who claimed him ignoring Kate and making her to run to keep up with him at a previous ceremony doesn't sprove anything negative about their relationship,now claim w&k satting together or laughing prove how madly they are in love with. . [/quote]
Is there a pic of watching her run after him?
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