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« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2010, 06:27:43 PM » |
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I "think" that Kate loves William much more then he loves her...Men's main instinct at a young age are usually dating many women, yet he has only dated say 3 or 4, and 3 were prior to Kate coming on the scene... Just because he doesn't show any overwhelming feelings doesn't mean he doesn't love her. He appears to be rather reserved.
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2010, 11:33:15 PM » |
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Delightful pictures! Thank you Lucy.  Is the first one from a visit to Wales, where Diana wore a medium blue suit with black accents?? I recall her guiding him along with a reassuring touch on the shoulder every so often. But it is the same spirit we just saw in NZ and Australia! No doubt about it. Just because he doesn't show any overwhelming feelings doesn't mean he doesn't love her. He appears to be rather reserved.
I never thought I would live to see the day when being reserved was something that needed explaining or justifying. It's a scary thought.
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2010, 04:32:57 PM » |
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I "think" that Kate loves William much more then he loves her...Men's main instinct at a young age are usually dating many women, yet he has only dated say 3 or 4, and 3 were prior to Kate coming on the scene...
I can't agree u more Kate.You have to be blind or delusional not to see she's more into him than him into her.Men who hasn't dated many woman before getting married and marry the girl who they have dated for 5-6 years don't end up well in general. Because Imo a man shouldn't harbour any kind of curiosity regarding dating many women ,having fun ors th else ,otherwise they choose to experience them during their marriage . In William's case things are more serious.Because as u said he hasn't dated many woman and obviously not much into Kate.Sooner or later he'll go out and try,look for true love or attraction,maybe just sex.But I can't see them living happily ever after. I'm afraid he'll end up like Charles becasue if he marries Kate he won't be marrying the one .And the day he meet her,things will take a turn for worse. I believe he values Kate every bit as much as she values him.
Then his idea of valuing sbd is very awkward....If what he does is valueing his gf,then the rest of the men on world is doing sth completely different. If u value sbd,you save her face instead of letting her get hurt,don't humiliate or drag her on as you avoid ignoring or betraying. The press do treat them differently and so they should. Their future roles are very different. Same goes for the girlfriends.
I don't agree with u.It's not fair on Harry to be crucified just because he is in third line to the throne.Because of this way of thinking he has been the bad boy of the family ,William was loved more than him just because he has a better look and more protection. He has done mothing more than Harry to deserve this much hype.
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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2010, 04:43:15 PM » |
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I don't think what the press has done re: harry was at all fair. Wills does a lot of the same thing, partying and clubbing and drinking. He just recently stayed out until 4 am at a club, and not for the milkshakes. The most telling thing about how the boys were treated was a People Magazine cover story Good Prince/Wild Prince, I guess we know how the press categorized them. Wills was protected more because he was the "heir." Charles got "incandescent" when his brother Edward left cameras around at St. Andrews where Wills was. But Harry gets thrown to the wolves. Wills had a pic of him dancing in a feathered boa lookiing worse for wear. But since this would not be good for his "image" it was never published in the UK. But showed up in the US.
I don't see Kate as "superior" to Chelsy at all. Both are from wealthy families and because they are got to associate with the royal princes.
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« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2010, 07:04:37 PM » |
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Prince William position will always be superior to Harry's, and the wife as well, then the children born to him.
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2010, 07:10:41 PM » |
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It doesn't mean that some may be more interested in what Harry does than Wills does. He has his fan base. The position may be higher but I don't think either young man is necessarily "superior" himself.
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« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2010, 04:09:26 AM » |
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imagine how many more thousand paparazzi and such would be following william and his life if he married now??! that is the reason
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« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2010, 10:16:51 AM » |
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« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2010, 02:39:25 PM » |
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imagine how many more thousand paparazzi and such would be following william and his life if he married now??! that is the reason
But this will always be the case. It will not change no matter how long Wills postpones a marriage.
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« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2010, 02:58:51 PM » |
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^True. All that is inevitable no matter when or who he marries. Might as well get used to and accept it.
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« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2010, 03:05:11 PM » |
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imagine how many more thousand paparazzi and such would be following William and his life if he married now??! that is the reason
I agree, even the paparazzi who get interviewed, say they are after William, and should he get married with Kate, whom they also admitted she is worth more money, it will be thousands following this couple.
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« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2010, 05:07:54 PM » |
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I'm afraid he'll end up like Charles because if he marries Kate he won't be marrying the one. And the day he meet her,things will take a turn for worse.
That may be milena, or it could be William will be like Charles because they both dithered around too long about marrying their true love -- being too dense to realize that timing is sometimes everything.
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« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2010, 06:17:48 PM » |
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But all this doesn't mean Wills should not marry? If he associates marriage with paps and fears marriage then he needs serious counseling.
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« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2010, 06:26:00 PM » |
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I don't think that, I think they do have the engagement, announcement and wedding mapped out.
I just gave a parapazzi interview facts and what they had to say about the royals.
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« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2010, 06:32:47 PM » |
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I really doubt this wannabe. Did they have this planned for 7 years? I think there is an existence a GENERAL plan for the boys' future weddings but nothing specific. Without the official announcement, Kate is still his girlfriend and Wills could back out from any "backstairs" alleged agreements. I don't know why Kate would even want this sort of thing anyway. I think Kate has no rivals for a future wedding, but I find it very unlikely that it's all "Set." If so, I think WIlls would have ensured that she get full protection by going through with announcing the engagement and not watch his "fiancee" twist in the wind with the Waity Katie stories.
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« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2010, 06:39:43 PM » |
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If Wills and Kate ever decide to break up it will be announced by Kate's announcement of marriage to another man while the public still thinks she is with Wills.
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« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2010, 07:45:47 PM » |
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I agree that for whatever reason, William is still wishy washy about the whole thing. He may have a time table, but it has nothing to do with Kate losing her privacy.
If that were the only concern, then it doesn't make sense. Kate would actually be able to maintain more privacy if she were safely behind the walls of the military base where William is now than she would should they marry when William is out of the army.
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« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2010, 09:39:27 PM » |
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Well , I haven't red the whole thread and I hope i am not repeating anyone here, there are many reasons they aren't married. It could be any of the following a. William wants to finish his Raf training first so there isnt another Fergie situation , in the way that km would be all alone and william away. There isnt any guarantee they would be on base together. b. after they get married it will just increase the pressue on them to have children. c. Marriage would be mean more fulltime royal duties and william isnt ready for that yet. d. or william just dosen't want to marry Kate
Its really could be anything we won't anything until they either breakup or announce an engagement. e.
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« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2010, 09:51:12 PM » |
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May I add e. to that, royalwatcher05?
e. they will become fodder for public consumption totally and completely. No more privacy at all, "on duty" 24 hours, 7 days a week.
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« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2010, 09:57:40 PM » |
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thats a good e royalb! thanks 
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« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2010, 01:31:53 AM » |
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e. they will become fodder for public consumption totally and completely. they are already at that point.  will it get worse when they marry? probably. but not getting married has hardly stopped it. No more privacy at all, "on duty" 24 hours, 7 days a week. if i had to guess why he hasn't married i'd say that's it. William's shown that he's in no hurry to start up as a full time royal. he was supposed to start full duties after his familiarization with the other branches of the military but put the breaks on it (would have loved to been a fly in that room!) and said he wanted to train and work as a rescue pilot first. i dont blame him for wanting to put it off....either his royal role or getting married. its a lot of pressure. in the words of a 20 something Prince Charles pointing out that the woman you marry may one day become queen....."You have got to choose somebody very carefully who could fulfill this particular role, because people like you, perhaps, would expect quite a lot from somebody like that and it has got to be somebody pretty special."
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« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2010, 01:41:12 AM » |
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Charles practiced what he preached wth Wife No. 1 not Wife NO. 2 IMO.
Also Wills cannot be a career military man since he is a future King. He could literally be yanked from this SAR if 1) there is a serious threat to his safety due to terrorist threat, etc. 2) his father and grandmother become ill or incapacitated--he would need to fill in.
It's immaterial if he's married or not, it could be sooner than he thinks that he could be called upon to do full time royal duties.
And should he marry Kate they would not be "on display" 24/7. ROyals DO have privacy. He and Kate could stay behnd Palace walls and not be seen or have security keeping the paps away.
In many ways their being married would give them both MORE security.
William so far as shown indifference to press pressure. I don't think he would be troubled by the press pressuring him to have a baby. He and hs bride will have one when they are ready not before.
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« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2010, 02:49:30 PM » |
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I think they have more privacy now in their relationship than they would do once they are married. Then it is signed and sealed and in the eyes of the press, even more "no holds barred."
Not sure about your point with regards to William feeling under pressure to start a family, Sandy. I get the impression that he will feel pressure quite considerably once he and Kate were "above the radar" so to speak, not just with regards to producing babies, either.
I think William knows he will have difficulty keeping the press out of their lives. They will more than want their (the press) piece of him and Kate.
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« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2010, 04:35:14 PM » |
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I think Wills has risen above: two books about his "princess", wedding souvenirs 4 years ago, countless articles about his "proposal," et al. I think he would resist pressure about babies too. I think the conflict would come about the timing with his wife not the press if there is such a conflict re: timing.
Wills knows he can't keep the press out of their lives or he should know darn well he can't. As a future King, he would be in la la land to think that he could live a life without the press around at some points in his life (to say the least). Plus the first child would be a future King or Queen and great interest will be in this child so There would be probably photo ops with the couple and the little tyke.
If he wants all this privacy, he needs to step aside. However, even that wouldn't be a "cure" because he'd be followed around like the Duke of Windsor was.
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« Reply #74 on: February 09, 2010, 05:37:57 PM » |
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Yes he would have to be in lala land to think that he could keep the press from intruding. But I think that's what they will do (the press). I wonder if he has ever thought about stepping aside?
There is no place on this earth, however, William could hide. I do think that he will keep things as low key and as private as possible for as long as possible, though. Marriage is not the thing to do to sustain that.
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