Is Harry really a Mummy's Boy, or just like Dad ?

[Adele]

Diana cheating is HER fault then.  It has nothing to do with anyone's marrage, this is about Harry's likeness to his parents. I don't recall Harry cheating so what's that got to do with anything? And even if he did he can't just say 'oh I got that from my mum/dad!' That's not a reason to cheat, just because your parents did! I'm sure he's seen the damage caused and doesn't want the same for his children, and so won't be like either of his parents in that respect.

[sandy]

If CHarles didn't cheat or disavow marriage vows IMO Diana would not have cheated. But it is public record that Diana took 1/2 the blame for the marriage breakdown. When did Charles?

Read my posts. I said I HOPE they don't cheat. WHich is something that would be of benefit to them and their wives and the image of the monarchy.

[LairdOfLochaber]

What is Captain Hewitt doing these days?

[Lindelle]

And here I thought this thread was about Harry and NOT whether, how or why mama and papa cheated.
This actually turns people OFF wanting to express themselves here.

[LairdOfLochaber]

The ways in which I see Harry resembling Diana are:  charismatic, extroverted, loves people, kind hearted, thoughtful, & very aware of those less fortunate.  He's unpretentious, seems to have great leadership skills, and stays busy on behalf of others.  I hope he and William will always be close, because he helps warm William up and could be a positive influence in drawing him out.  Charles comes across as finicky, reserved and elitist, with high brow interests and lacking the common touch.  I see hardly any resemblance to Charles.  William greatly resembles the Windsors in his physical makeup.  When he wore a beard (which I thought was very becoming to him) he looked a great deal like Edward VII.  Harry doesn't look like any of the Windsors and I don't see much resemblance to the Spencers.  Mamma's boy in the U.S. means a sissy who is effeminate and overly attached to his mother.  That doesn't describe Harry at all, so the phrasing of the original question threw me.  I'm sorry if bringing up Captain Hewitt was offensive.  I pondered whether to post that, and then wished there was a retract button.  But I have wondered about him, and whether William and Harry have any sort of contact with him at all.   

[mousie_kins]

LoL, you have just answered the thread question beautifully 

As for your question, I believe they have no contact. After all he has betrayed Diana and cashed in on her memory any chance he gets.
Last time I heard Hewitt was living abroad and starting a new business, apparently he doesn't like the UK any more.

[Lindelle]

LoL you didn't offend me in any way in asking about Hewitt.
But as mousie _kins just said, you answered the thread, and in such a nice way too

[RoyalB]

LoL, that was a great post!  You summed up Harry beautifully and I like the point you made about H "warming up" William, drawing him out.  That was great! 

[sandy]

Talking about what Mama and Papa did is very relevant--I don't think it "upsetting" or "offputting"  to bring up because it's what Harry grew up with--his circumstances as a child of a broken marriage--it's part of his life and his past.  Harry grew up in a home where his parents were in effect leading separate lives and eventually divorced. Diana did state that this being a child of a broken home affected her--and it would be like avoiding an "elephant" in the room to skip over this part of her son's life as well.  Charles even dwelled on his childhood and its influence on him via Dimbleby. The past does shape the personality and "being" of anybody. And Harry and Wills both witnessed the issues of their parents which did shape their lives.

A son learns from what his parents did not only what he should emulate but what he finds he should not. Harry I think would be particularly attuned to what not to do in a marriage and I think would treat his wife with respect and love. And Harry also seems not to go in for the many relationships that papa had pre marriage--he is with the same lady and William is too. So maybe they wanted to avoid the "sowing wild oats" because they saw the downside of it seeing what happened to their father.

I see plenty of resemblance in Harry to the Mountbatten Windsors and the Spencers. He looks like his paternal granddad around the eyes and has the Spencer chin (like Wills has). And there are shots of him where he resembles his great great uncle Edward VIII.

I doubt W and H have any contact with James Hewitt. Why would they? He was one of the ones who betrayed their mother--particularly on the "hypnosis" show and cashed in on her. I think they would avoid him like the plague.

[Trudie]

It was reported a couple of years ago that Hewitt and Harry were in the same bar and Harry totally ignored the fact that Hewitt was there that says alot that Harry normally keeps in touch with those from his past. That said Diana's cheating may have been her own fault but one must remember that it was Charles who drove her to that by opening saying to her he would not be the first POW not to have a mistress and left the marital bed when his wife was only 23. Diana always said she loved Charles and the only fault that can be laid at Diana's doorstep by cheating was what woman would want to remain celibate the rest of her life because her husband refused to meet her needs physically and emotionally.

[anitalalala]

I think that the past of the couple is relevant also...to the point it may blinds peoples judgements.
I think that diana was a great women but she was a human and also have her faults and mistakes.She wasnt perfect.
Sometimes i think that people by respect and by this iconic image they have of her refuse to accept that yeah she was amazing..but she was a human and commited a lot of mistakes in her life just as everyone!!!
But yet she was the one who was cheated and charles was the one who cheated.He was seeing as a bad person back then but he was also a human with a lot of bad faults and a lot of mistakes on the baggage also.
The diference is that diana died..and charles is still alive...and mostlly the responsible of everyhting bad and tragic that happenned to diana....whenever people remeber diana they blame chales for everyhting..and its not fair...sorry.
I think a marriage is made by two people....a lot is said about theyre relationship and not much is proven besides the obvious that yes charles cheated on her.And its peoples personal choices to take it as a mortal mistake or to not.
I personally dont..but i respect those who does...because people have total right on this case and eventually were diferent and rects diferentlly to such facts!
What i dont agree if that to me it seems that everyone when answering a question luike this...obviouslly thinks:
Of course hes more diana..coz she was wonderfull, lovelly and amazing....while his father is a disgrace coz he cheated poor diana.
I mean im sorry but i think its totally relevant when people think this way.
Because the only reason people dislike charles is obviosull coz what he did to diana...it has anything to deal with the fact of him being a good or a bad father..or even a good or bad human...coz yes he is one too.

Honestlly i understanf and resepct people sopinions...but the thing is that o cant think of him as a bad father coz he cheated on diana....as i cant remeber or dignified diana as a wonderfull and perfect women...she was wonderfull and a one of a kind...but she wasnt perfcet she was a human in the end...just like all of us.
The diference is that she lived a diferent life..thats all.She was a pincess and had this turbulent love life...she suffered a lot and diferentlly from the rest of us her pain was public..but she was also very happy at many times i recon...and yes she had unfortunatelly a tragic death wich marked her existence forever in the history..especially coz the sons she left and the image she created for herself duuring her life.

Im sorry but i can remember diana only as the women who wasnt loved enough by prince charless and end up being cheated...i remeber her for many other things but not exclusevelly for this one.The same way i found there are many carachteristics and facts,things about prince charkles life and personality than his failed marriage with diana.I mean...its reasonable to think on both ways equally...and thats what i try to do.
To criticize cahrles for his mistakes its ok...but to try to make him responsible for diana unhapinnes and tragic death is too much.The same way that after more than a decade people only can remeber or think about it anytime they see charles or talk about him...and forget all the good things he have done in his life....like being a father for example.
Coz yep he also exists....hes was there too...he might not a perfect one but who is?
In the end i think he did a good job...thats what i think...
Both parents did a good job...diana and charles...and naturally i beklieve that william and harry are a mix of theyre parents....both...just like most  people are  

[sandy]

I don't think "everyone" blames Charles. Diana has gotten her share and more of the blame--some blaming her for it all.ALL your post does apply also to people who blame Diana and vilify her. When Diana died, Charles had his sympathizers flock to him and badmouth Diana after she died--and some brought into the Diana was the cause of it all spin (she was "damaged" she was "mad" and other epithets were tossed at her after she died in an effort to "help" Charles), unfortunately. I think that rankled with some (including myself) that he at the very least condoned this. I think W and H love and loved both their parents unconditionally. And of course they saw their parent's human sides. No question. But I think they hopefully learned something from what they observed.

The boys always showed affection to their parents--in the Settlelen tapes there is a great affectionate rapport shown with Diana and her sons and on ski trips the same can be observed with Charles and his sons.

I think that some (including myself) blame Charles more because of the circumstances of the marriage. He KNEW how he felt about Camilla and how he didn't feel about Diana (so he said later on to Dimbleby) but brought Diana into the situation anyway. The marriage was in effect a deception of a young girl of 19. Diana of course caught on and reacted in her own way and made mistakes but  IMO Charles was to blame for setting up the unfortunate scenario. It was so much more than just plain "cheating" it was a case of deceit of Diana.

I think the lesson is that there should be a right and a wrong in life. And the boys should see right and wrong--wrong to marry someone knowing that they don't love the woman going into the marriage and wrong not to honor wedding vows of themselves or of another person. A moral compass is important and hopefully this has been instilled with the boys preparing the way for their hopefully successful marriages.

[sandy]

ALL I would like to add. I don't see Diana as "perfect" or anything like that. She wasn't. However, I think what was the most wrong was not that people talked about her being human or flaws but exaggeration and really cruel things said (which I  hope the boys never heard). For instance about a year after she died:

1 - Robert Lacey in effect said Diana (he said this on Larry King) that Diana was "better off" dying young because she would have gone "out of control" and "gone downhill". SOmething really cruel.
2 - As late as 2005, Joan Rivers accused Diana of "sleeping around" also on Larry King and "picking up" Men. Yet she was invited to Charles' parties. Do the boys know what she said about their mother? I hope not
3 - Countess Mountbatten said Diana was "damaged"
4 - Penny Junor in Charles Victim or Villain (the MS was sent to SJP where Charles dwelled and perhaps saw in advance) was a diatribe against Diana--she had "Borderline Personality Disorder," she was "unstable" and made "death threats" against Camilla among other charges. Some other writers picked up on this same Diana bashing--like Ingrid Seward.

Charles as the sole parent should have (and yes he could have) discouraged the bashing of the mother of his sons'. The purpose of this apparently was to show his "side" and get Camilla accepted (how he suffered with Diana and all that). Unfortunately some of this "stuck". To me anyway, this was far worse than any "cheating."

This is unfortunately what the boys had to deal with after their mother died.

While they love their father, I wonder how this "sat" with the boys. Now that Camilla is married to Charles the trashing has decelerated but trashing Diana to get Camilla accepted was IMO very wrong.

It's not just Charles who is blamed for "cheating." ALL there is a lot more to it.

The boys know IMO darn well that their parents are and were not perfect. And they show respect and love to both of them which is great. And credit both of them.

[anitalalala]

I dont know if u got upseat by my response but it wasnt for u sandy..neither anyone else...it was just a response to the discussion in general...not personally to anyone...so im sorry if u though it was directlly to ure post...   
and if u didnt nevermind then 
Anyway thats only my opinions about what i think of such subeject but i do undertand and resepct other views as well...and yes i understand what u say about examples the boys should have and follow or not...and i totally agree.

[sandy]

I'm not upset ALL. Just noting that Diana was also bashed. Charles was not the only one criticized.